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Misty Copeland: The Exit Interview


Reflecting on Misty Copeland’s Legacy as She Prepares to Retire From American Ballet Theatre

As Misty Copeland’s groundbreaking profession with American Ballet Theatre involves an finish, she’s feeling contemplative. “I believe again to my first tour with ABT and it feels so way back,” Copeland says. Throughout her 25 years on the firm, she grew to become generally known as a maverick; an exacting, singular artist; and a worldwide icon. A self-described introvert, the ability of her voice has grown alongside her platform.

However whereas making time to look backward, she’s able to look ahead, too. Her skilled journey is way from over. “I’m not leaving—it’s simply the tip of my time at ABT,” she says. 

Copeland spoke with Dance Journal about her profession so far and what excites her in regards to the future—her personal, and the ballet world’s.

How do you know that it was time to depart ABT?

I’ll proceed performing and dancing in some capability, however I by no means noticed myself doing classical works into my 40s. And I’ve at all times thought when the time comes that I don’t have the identical form of drive and keenness, I shouldn’t be doing it. 2019 was after I began to really feel that. 

There are such a lot of different issues that I could possibly be doing to perform my longtime aim of bringing extra fairness and consciousness of ballet’s lack of range, and discovering methods to satisfy individuals the place they’re in communities like I grew up in. That began to override how I felt about being onstage.

Misty Copeland captured in a saut de chat, arms in third arabesque. She is costumed in a bright yellow classical tutu, pink tights, and pointe shoes.
Misty Copeland as Gulnare in Le Corsaire. Photograph by Marty Sohl, courtesy ABT.

My final efficiency I used to be imagined to do with ABT was Giselle on the Kennedy Middle in 2019, and I ended up with a stress fracture in my again. I needed to pull out the day of the present, and I wasn’t unhappy. I assumed, That is the signal I shouldn’t be doing this. As a result of each different time [getting injured], it’s devastating. Then the pandemic hit, and I wanted that point to reassess what I wished to do. It felt natural and pure. 

During the last 5 years, I’ve been very clear about what I wished. It’s simply been laborious to get different individuals on board. ABT has wished me again, and has mentioned, “Your audiences deserve that.” Not till this 12 months, after having many conversations with my mentors, did I really feel like I used to be prepared to return onstage—to say “thanks” to the corporate, my unimaginable coaches and colleagues, and the wonderful audiences who’ve supported me. 

How has your relationship with ABT developed over time?

It’s been my household for 25 years. Lately, I used to be speaking with [director of repertoire] Luciana Paris, who was within the firm with me, about my first placement class at ABT’s summer time intensive after I was 16. I used to be overcome in one of the best ways, like “I can not imagine that I get to be right here.” I’ve felt that all through my profession. 

I really feel so lucky that [longtime artistic director] Kevin McKenzie embraced my uniqueness, and heard me, and challenged me, and gave me alternatives time and again. So lots of the Black dancers who’ve come via this firm weren’t given these alternatives. 

It’s been like your relationship together with your dad and mom altering from childhood to maturity. It’s me rising up and maturing, and being open, communicative, and sincere as I’ve modified and developed. 

Misty Copeland raises a pointed foot toward a parallel passé, leaning away from the audience slightly. Her opposite arm bends in front of her sternum, while the other press out and down to one side. She is costumed in a sleeveless white blouse, a long peach skirt, white socks and jazz shoes, and a patterned handkerchief over her hair that matches the skirt.
Misty Copeland in Paul Taylor’s Firm B. Photograph by Gene Schiavone, courtesy ABT.

What are the very best highs and the bottom lows of your skilled expertise within the ballet world so far?

They’re so intertwined. The journey to those excessive locations might be devastating and exhausting. Numerous the lows have been round individuals who couldn’t see my expertise, didn’t imagine in me, and weren’t afraid to shout it. I really feel like I’ve been in a distinct place from loads of dancers in that I’ve been a really public determine for a very long time, so I see and listen to loads of that negativity. Additionally, being a Black dancer and being one of many solely ones, I used to be working towards loads after I was already in such a weak area and performing evening after evening. 

I might undoubtedly say that the highs have been the relationships I’ve developed touring the world with these unimaginable mates, attending to do what I really like, and seeing the shift within the audiences which have come into the theater to see ballet. I’m so pleased with that. I’m doing the work now to develop that curiosity and viewers.

The place do you suppose ballet remains to be falling brief, and the place have you ever seen progress?

It’s so laborious to get individuals to interrupt freed from the trauma of abusive educating that’s sadly nonetheless prevalent within the ballet world. Many dancers have endured harsh, fear-based coaching strategies rooted in humiliation, physique shaming, and unrealistic calls for. Whereas some academics have believed this was the “conventional” option to push dancers, it may possibly trigger lasting emotional and bodily hurt. The BE BOLD educating artists [at the Misty Copeland Foundation] are dedicated to breaking that cycle. That’s what I’ve structured my basis round. I do know that it’s attainable to create a nurturing atmosphere and to show from a joyful place. I believe that the most important change I’ve seen is the willingness to have an open dialogue about [ballet’s shortcomings]. After I joined the corps de ballet in 2001, we weren’t brazenly having these conversations. Now, it’s so fantastic that we will have these discussions in an actual manner. It’s not a fad. It’s been years now that individuals have been making an attempt to make change. It’s simply, how are we doing it, and is it sustainable? 

How do you think about ballet’s future?

I really feel so eager for the way forward for ballet. I believe that there are loads of extremely gifted and good, forward-thinking people who find themselves concerned and coming into management roles in massive faculties and corporations. I’m hopeful that [ABT] will proceed to maintain individuals concerned who will push them and problem them. I need to proceed to be concerned indirectly. 

We’re not making an attempt to erase historical past and legacy, however what does custom actually imply? That’s one thing I typically grapple with. Historical past is truth, and we be taught from it. However is custom at all times constructive, or are we holding onto issues solely as a result of that’s the way in which they’ve at all times been performed?

How have mates, colleagues, and the general public reacted to your retirement announcement?

Individuals are not shocked. I believe that the colleagues who have been within the firm with me and are nonetheless there have been hoping I’d return for a full season, so that they’re feeling a bit prefer it’s the tip of an period. It’s a giant transition, however it’s at all times been so vital to me, when it’s my time, to essentially step away, as a result of there are such a lot of wonderful dancers who deserve the chance. 

Total, the response has been slightly unhappy, however I’m additionally enthusiastic about what I’ll proceed to do, which is arts schooling, dance schooling, transferring us ahead. 

Misty Copeland is captured mid-air in the iconic leap from Don Quixote; she arches back with her arms in high fifth toward her back leg. She wears a ruffled coral dress over tights and pointe shoes.
Misty Copeland as Kitri in Don Quixote. Photograph by Rosalie O’Connor, courtesy ABT.

What’s going to your remaining efficiency seem like?

I wished this to be a time for me to really feel good on the stage, and in addition do items which were significant all through my profession. I really like the extra dramatic appearing roles, so there shall be a few of that. Twyla [Tharp] shall be concerned, as a result of she’s been a giant a part of my profession since I used to be 16 years outdated. I believe the very first thing I did within the ABT summer time program was Push Involves Shove, one of many lead roles, and she or he got here in and coached us. 

I’m having a brand new work created, which is vital for me too, as a result of I need to be trying to the long run and choreographers that I imagine in and respect. I wished each the Studio Firm and the corporate to carry out, as a result of that was my journey, going via that pipeline. There’ll be three completely different items that I’ll carry out, after which the corporate and Studio Firm will carry out completely different items. 

I need it to really feel like a celebration, and never one thing that drags on for hours. That was my number-one request. In my first assembly with [artistic director] Susan Jaffe, I mentioned, “I don’t need this to be lengthy. I need individuals to be like, ‘Oh, my God, it’s already over.’ ”  

Misty Copeland smiles brightly as she gazes up into the middle distance. She is seen in profile, posed in B-plus, hands clasped at her heart. She is costumed in a long, blue velvet gown with puffy white sleeves and pointe shoes; she seems small and young at the foot of a large tapestry set piece.
Misty Copeland as Juliet in Sir Kenneth MacMillan’s Romeo and Juliet. Photograph by Rosalie O’Connor, courtesy ABT.

Is there the rest which you can share about what you’ll be doing going ahead?

I’ve been so lucky that, all through my journey at ABT, I had began to already plant loads of these seeds via writing and touring, doing talking engagements. It’s actually been the final decade that I’ve been doing this, so I’ll proceed doing these issues. During the last 4 years, I’ve had my manufacturing firm, and we’ve got loads of nice tasks in growth. 

All of that is with dance in thoughts. How can we use the humanities as a software for growing transferable life abilities? How can we get content material on the market that displays the dance group in a constructive gentle? As a result of there’s a lot that continues these [negative] tropes, and that doesn’t do us justice. 

What are you trying ahead to after that remaining present?

I can’t wait to proceed to be a fan and sit within the viewers and watch ABT develop and evolve, and watch all the dancers and their careers. It’s thrilling to be a part of such an unimaginable legacy of an organization and of dancers that I’ve regarded as much as since I used to be 13 years outdated, and so I really feel immensely grateful. 

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